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sallie grayson
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Quote sallie grayson Replybullet Topic: Misplaced fundraising and donations
    Posted: 23 May 2007 at 11:54

Many returning travellers are driven to fundraise for communities when they return home. Without guidance this generosity can be completely misplaced and inappropriate.The following are  a couple of recent examples of misplaced philanthropy I have heard of.

Do the children in the Indian village visited earlier in the year really need all the handknitted sweaters made by friends and family - who will pay for shipment and distribution, could the funds not have been used to buy wool and needles locally and perhaps create a little local employment?
 
Just who decided a  fancy new tennis court in a community HIV centre was a priority?
 
What ideas do other forum memebers have for helping well meaning but misguided tourists ensure their money is wisely used?
 
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Quote John Pollock Replybullet Posted: 23 May 2007 at 17:52
My favourite recent story was of a very self-righteous French tourist in Senegal who decided there were too many batteries lying around damaging the environment. She paid bemused but willing Senegalese kids to collect them up. She then didn't know what to do with them, and flew off, leaving them in a large, now collectively leaking, pile...

The obvious answer is to educate tourists on what to do that would be helpful - but then when most professional developmentalists, who are in the business, after all, can't convincingly demonstrate that what they do fits the bill, isn't it a bit rich to apply unreasonable standards to naive but well-meaning (or guilty) tourists?

And, of course, the unintended consequences of irresponsible giving may, sometimes, be beneficial.

So in that sense my sympathies are with E.M. Forster: "Live in fragments no longer... Only connect!"  Therein lies the hope...




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Quote kate Replybullet Posted: 04 Jul 2007 at 14:48

As Sallie points out, communities and individuals may indeed benefit from philanthropic travel companies and their customers, whether by accident or design.

This appears to be true of a company which has recently crossed my sightline - Relief Riders International - www.reliefridersinternational.com

Check out the video on their site - they are undoubtedly making a real difference to the communities which they visit in rural Rajasthan ...

... my concern here is not so much that giving is happening, but in that the manner of giving appears inappropriate in the cultural context.

See what you think ...

 

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Quote npjai Replybullet Posted: 15 Jul 2007 at 13:52
Kate..could you elaborate on your comment.."the manner of giving appears inappropriate". I assume this is in context of what Relief Riders are giving along their rides. I see that they give educational material to schools, deworm children, participate in an eye surgery camp, and on one trip, donate livestock. What do you find inappropriate?
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Quote goodwinhj Replybullet Posted: 20 Jul 2007 at 06:35
It does look a bit like the cavalry riding into relieve a siege and the film left me with the impression that a few medicines were handed out with very little professional supervision, follow-up or real engagement. 
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Quote planeta Replybullet Posted: 15 Aug 2007 at 08:16
There are so many stories! One of my favorites was a free-trade protest outside of Cancun a few years ago. The organizers wanted to be self-sufficient and brought a ton of renewable energy equipment which they left with locals. Good intentions, but they never inquired ahead of time how to organize this so that it would be put to good use after the protest.

In Oaxaca where I have lived the past six years a European agency helped ween artisans from coal and tire-fired furnaces for ceramics. Natural gas would be a better option, they insisted. After the training, the experts left and the artisans returned to the traditional fires, actually leaving some of the pieces in the stoves fired with natural gas.
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Quote reesie Replybullet Posted: 20 Sep 2007 at 03:18
This is a good forum topic.  I myself have fallen in the trap of wanting to be a 'do-gooder' after short volunteer trips away.  Luckily I enrolled in a post-grad course and learned to monitor my programs, critique what I did, but I do feel that perhaps some of my actions were more harmful than good (hence perhaps why i'm on the site right now - trying to make amends?).  I have heard some interesting stories - like a girl who raised money to build a house for a local she befriended - and I wonder whether now the villagers will expect this of future volunteers...
 
However, I don't think we can really judge people who really want to help and think they are doing the right thing - some of it might be beneficial! People feel an attachment to the place and people they meet - and its very positive to harness these feelings into something worthwhile and productive.  However, perhaps these people really don't know who to ask in order to validate their idea.  Is there perhaps scope for a website or blogsite that could be marketed to tourists in order to publish stories like those listed on the forum and give some guidance on what they could do?  Then we could inform some of these people before the event rather than critiquing their work afterwards?
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Quote coastproject Replybullet Posted: 21 Jan 2008 at 14:42

As a newbie great to so much interesting discussion - was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on the concpet of 'visitor gifting'? We www.coastproject.co.uk work with tourism businesses that want to help their local communities and environements and want to encourage their visitors to do the same. . . they ask visitor for voluntary contributions. . i.e. 5 pence added to the price of a cup of tea/coffee. .or maybe £1 added per person, per bed night etc. . maybe 50p added to the price of a tour. . all voluntary opt-out schemes. The  money raised then goes to a local charity/community group to help with a specific issue/habitat. For example we have one business that in the past year raised a few thousand pounds for the local wildlife trust to help with marine conservation and education. Alot of money for a small charity. .all raised from visitors willingness to give back to the areas they are visiting.  Becasue the money is channelled through registered charities that are already working in the area it avoides some of the problems mentioned above?

 
Our research highlights how much visitors value these schemes and how keen they are to give a little bakc to the environments and communities they are engaging with.
 
Does anyone know of any visitor gifting schemes outside the UK?
 
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Quote lukeford Replybullet Posted: 17 Mar 2008 at 15:33
Hey Jemma,
 
Nice to see what you are doing in Cornwell. I work with a company called whl.travel (www.whl.travel), a project started by the IFC (part of the WorldBank) to provide small-to-medium accommodation and tour providers with access to the global independent travel market.
 
We work with a local partner in each of our destinations to offer unique tourism products that 'put-back-in' to the destination. Each of our partners can then go off and find the small guesthouses and B&Bs run by families that perhaps have no way of selling thier product online.
 
It is more than just donating money... you can actually travel and book with a local partner in many destinations that are 'off-the-beaten-track', the money stays in the local destination and most of the time you can really have a unique experience, something you will never find on the major travel suppliers.
 
At the moment we are gaining quite the momentum.. working for our local partners and our global affiliations such as National Geographic to really promote those doing something good in their destination.
 
Take a look at our website and view some of our partners... let me know if you have any questions.
 
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Quote reesie Replybullet Posted: 12 Jun 2008 at 06:48
Hi Jemma
 
I have been thinking about something like this recently, and I'm so pleased to hear it works well for you and that your customers also find it valuable.
 
I'll have a good look into your model and hope to be able to adopt something similar in the future.

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Quote Georgie Replybullet Posted: 17 Jun 2008 at 18:30

Hi Luke,

Thanks for the introduction to WHL. 

The concept sounds good and interesting to the responsible traveller, but after looking at the website I had difficulties locating the unique products which 'put back' in to the destination as you describe. Is this limited to few destinations on the site or do all destinations advertised offer a unique product range, which are not available from other major travel suppliers? Also, does WHL offer any direct visitor payback schemes?

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Quote zoeb Replybullet Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 17:22

I wondered what you thought of the following travel advice:

 

As a tour operator we used to suggest that travelers bring pens and notebooks to give out to the local children as an alternative to money and sweets which we found the children would ask for when they saw our groups.

 

However a lot of our local guides and reps (especially in India and Africa) suggested that we stopped offering gifts to children as it encouraged begging and promoted a culture of dependency. Instead they asked that if possible our clients contribute money or supplies to a local school or community organisation.

 

Do you feel that the later is a more responsible option for our clients?

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Quote joni Replybullet Posted: 31 Aug 2010 at 09:25

Zoeb,

It is indeed true that offering gifts to children promotes begging and a culture of dependency. Living in Cambodia I see this problem every day. Tourist give money, sweets of gifts to the kids- the parents of the kids find this a good thing and the kids actually earn more in a month then their parents- parents might take their kids out of school to let them beg or sell every day.
 
My advice would be to support a local NGO with a clear and sustainable vision. It's tricky to contribute money or supplies to the local school because there's no sustainable long term idea in this. I see examples here of tourists donating books and when they turn their back the books are sold to the bookstore again. Or books lay around in the school and are never used.
Hope this helps!
 
for ideas visit: www.concertcambodia.org
 
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